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This game will...
r0x0r my b0x0rz.
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likely r0x0r somebody's b0x0rz, but not my own.
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flop like a bag of stinky s0x0rz.
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magically come to life and start duking it out with such Wii celebrities as Twilight Princess and Mr. Virtual Console.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so this Subspace Emissary is trying to splode the world with bombs, right? So the Adventure mode (im just guessin here) is probably gonna have at least a few "kill all the bad guys before 3 minutes are up" kind of things. But you know how Smash has had a few characters that were evil in theyre normal games, like Ganon, Bowser, and since I don't have a third how bout Mewtwo.. mmmkay? So maybe these evil guys will like team up with the supspace dudes and depending on who you play as youll either be fighting away mario whos trying to stop the bomb or fighting as mario stopping bombs...

Now for Meta Knights ship I really dont know. Maybe it just looks like his? Maybe it IS his but he got like mutinied and hes not behind the wheel? I dunno.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timothy Dallas wrote:
... the Ninty version of Heartless...


Oh, good, I wasn't the only guy getting a real strong "Kingdom Hearts" vibe from these subspace dudes.

Anyone else slightly thrown off by the hyper-realistic Zelda juxtaposed to the cartoony Peach and Mario and all? I mean, I unerstand

RE: Talking in Adventure mode, I don't think you'll get much. I mean, Mario, Kirby, and pretty much the enitre roster of Smash Bros. don't really talk in their own games, why would they talk here?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J'kay wrote:
RE: Talking in Adventure mode, I don't think you'll get much. I mean, Mario, Kirby, and pretty much the enitre roster of Smash Bros. don't really talk in their own games, why would they talk here?

Yeah, true enough. On the other hand, with all these characters teaming up, I'm just hoping that there will be a decent amount of semi-meaningful interaction between them. Razz After all, Sakurai did say that there would be a heavy focus on the characters' individual stories (read as: something other than just mindless fighting), and it seems to me that actual dialogue is by far the best way to accomplish this.

Otherwise, we'll just have cutscenes filled with the following...

Mario: Woop! Yahoo!
Link: YAAH!
Yoshi: Yoshi!
Link: GYAAAAHH!!
Yoshi: Yoshi?
Mario: *shrugs helplessly*

As an extension of this, if at any point in the game, a shiny FMV cutscene features a high-resolution Cap'n Falcon challenging any other character(s) -- whether they be friend or foe -- to "show him their moves", I will personally contact Sakurai and offer him my firstborn child.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, this has always worried me about the Nintendo characters. As far as talking goes, I mean. I just can't see it happening, but you can't have a story without it. Right now it's pretty clear Link isn't going to talk the entire game since he never does, and Yoshi and DK only make animal noises (which sux I love those guys). However Peach might talk, I think she did once in the beginning of Mario Sunshine.

And don't forget that Nintendo can always do what they did in Twilight Princess when someone needed to talk: Make weird noises and add subtitles. Like, y'know, Peach going "nam nam nam nam nam" but the subtitles actually say something like "I should have paid attention when I got put in this cage".

Ok I didn't do a good job describing that, lemme try again. Remember in Animal Crossing how they talked (but didnt REALLY talk) and just made odd noises? Yeah, that's what I suspect they'll do.

Although I don't se a problem with making them F**********ing talk already. We've heard all of their voices, why shouldnt they?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: = O!!!!!! Reply with quote

Cause that's not the characters. If they wanna have Snake hee-in and haw-in that's one thing, but Mario/Link/Ness and a bunch of others are traditionally reserved, quiet characters. This has, in a way, developed their personalities as such. If you have Link talking then it creates the issue of what he's saying and how he's saying it. Remember the Zelda show? Imagine if that's what Smash Bros. did, to any character? Obviously they wouldn't make Link like that, but what if they made Ness really obnoxious, or anyone else? It'd just be ghey.

Characters like Zelda and Fox can handle the talking. Everyone else should just STFU and kill crap.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if Fox and Zelda die, then all we can do is always keep with us a sign that says "YIKES!" on it, just in case. LOL.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: ??!?!!? Reply with quote

Oh yeah, I forgot, Sonic can talk too.

PROOF HE's CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL Y / N
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from talking....

If Snake from a Sony game is in SSBB, then Master Chief from Microsoft and Bungie should be in there. Bill Gates actualy recomends the Wii, or atleast over the Playstation 3 (as far as I know, Bill owns a Wii). What I'm trying to say, is if Snake gets an invitation, then Master Chief should also, and I doubt that Microsoft/Bungie would say no, because It would boost their fan-base even more.

Also, then you could have a Samus Aran Vs. Master Chief battle and determen who the best space-hero is. Smile

But I guess we're all still hoping for Sonic to be in there, so whatever.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While MC would be cool, he'd be really out of place because he's never been on a Nintendo console or handheld or anything. I'm sure Gates would enjoy the free advertisements, but Nintendo fans wouldn't.

And I'm pretty sure Gates recommends the Wii because he realizes that Nintendo it is ~not~ Microsoft's opponent any longer. Their console is robust and multi-tiered and all about being more than a gaming system. The games all focus on some sort of multi-player competition - even a single player game, like Oblivion, will boast the achievements of its owner online, and adds to the overall gamerscore. The entire device and every component of it is in place so that gamers create a sort of familiar-feeling 'home base' with which to challenge the world. Nobody's gonna have your exact playlist. There are always things you can do to bump up your score. It's all vs. vs. vs.

The Wii is completely the opposite. At this point it's like Microsoft makes sneakers and Nintendo makes loafers.

If there's gonna be a representative from X-box that appears in Smash, it's gotta be either BK, Conker, or Joanna Dark, and of those three BK really is the best choice. BK is really going down the same road as Snake - had initial success on Nintendo butmoved on to a different venue, while still popping up on Nintendo stuff from time to time.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: DAMN U CHIZ!!

Well they only want characters who have been on a Nintendo system originally or at least once.

But wait... Snake's a Sony guy, right? Nope, maybe this is bullcrap, but I have it on good authority that he was originally on a Nintendo system.

Wait didn't someone in this thread say that already?

Anyway, clearly, the Master Cheif doesn't have a past with Nintendo. As much as I'd like to have him in there too, I don't think they'd even consider it.

And think: What would The Master Cheif offer that someone like Snake wouldnt? I know Snake has a rocket launcher, and I'm certain he's got an arsenal of other firearms too. So does the Master Cheif, and Sakurai said he wants no clones in Brawl. Sorry mein keifen but if the choice was between Snake and Master Cheif at some point before, I think Sakurai picked Snake.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: XP Reply with quote

Yeah, + sakurai said there are never to be any guns that work off bullets in the smash bros. series, as while it's always been about nintendo characters fighting, he's never wanted it to appear overly violent or cruel to the point that fans would see the game and be sad to see their favorite characters getting, like, shot in the face, or something. As it is the worst that happens is you get punched SUPER HARD!!! and go flying and turn into a star and pop.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROFLAMAOSSAOAOO

Yeah, so that explains the Super Scope, Ray Gun, Fox's Blaster, Samus's thing, all lazers, no bulletos.

Plus if Master Charles didn't have his guns he'd just have the sword. NOT ANOTHER SWORD CHAR LOL!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: KEK SHH PTFFT Reply with quote

LOOOOL, well it might have been cool to have him in regardless, as he could've had his rocket launcher, some plasma weps (perhaps a needler, kekeke), and then plasma grenades/frags. Although, they already put plasma's into the game, and the only difference between frags and bomb ombs would be the bouncing, so maybe there wouldn't be much of a call for that.

In an imaginary world where anything could happen, I'd love him as a character, but in all fairness BK deserves the spot so much more than him, and Rare deserves it so much more than Bungie. Look what Rare did for Nintendo - before them, Donkey Kong was pretty much phasing out of existance. Out of nowhere, though, they decided to revive him and turn what was initially a generic, arbitrary bad guy into a lovable, recognizable head of a very popular platforming franchise that still, ~to this day~, is making Nintendo very nice money. They even made a spinoff game from a character they invented that is now becomming it's own series. (Rare is making the DS version of DKR tho, since they are allowed to do handheld stuffs). And of course, BK/BT were much successes and some of the very few 'must have' games that the N64 ever had.

Honestly, Rare's been great to Nintendo, much moreso than Snake's company. They deserve an 'effin spot.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chzrm3 wrote:
While MC would be cool, he'd be really out of place because he's never been on a Nintendo console or handheld or anything.


Actually, there's rumours of a Halo DS in existence or in development, so if that's true he will be soon, so there's a slight possibility he might be around should the rumour ring true and a fourth Smash Bros is released. I'll get the magazine article for you as soon as my laptop's close enough to my scanner.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IN this imaginary world of anyhting happeningness, what would you do if you were in charge of banjos stuff?

I think the Up B could be that back flip he did with kazooie that you used to get to abnormally high places (not the stretchy your leggy one).

Down B could be that thing where kazooie sticks her beak out and it's like BODY SLAM?!

Forward B should be a random egg. Normal is just like pewp and doesnt even move you. Fire should make you burn like Ness's PK fire does. The ICe one would be too overpowered if it was like a Freezie.. or would it? WHat's left, oh yeah the clockwerk ones, those could walk around like when bombombs are pissed. Did I miss any?

B... B..... B..... what should B be? Maybe that should be egg....

For the grab he should grab you in his back pack. You know how you can hit people when you grab them? Kazooie could start pecking em to death when theyre in the backpack, and then for the throw he'll throw the bag but hang onto the strap and Kazooie will go flying with the unlucky bastard. So the draw back is your B's are all on cooldown till she comes back.

Anyone got any kwail ideas?

EDIT: for dallas. I'm not positive but im pretty sure this is the last smash bros according to Sakurai. Unless maybe its the last one HES making, in that case theres a chance of either absolutely no third party characters or that Super Smash Brothers Altercation will be cram full of third party peeps.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Foosh. Reply with quote

This is the last Smash Bros. Sakurai is making, but for Nintendo to end Smash Bros. because he's left would be like a country dissipitating because a strong leader died - someone else can fill Sakurai's shoes and continue making the franchise great. At this point, all the pieces are in place, and it isn't that difficult to say "HMM, ADD DIDDY?"

As for a Halo DS, wow. I didn't even know about that, what's the deal with Microsoft letting all their third party dudes work for Nintendo's handhelds? XD That's pretty impressive, but even so it's still kinda iffy. After all, Cloud and Sora (from FFVII and KH, respectively) both appeared in a recent GBA game 'chain of memories'. However, it wouldn't seem right to have them in the game. Then again, that's more because there's tons of other square characters who are more nintendo than they are, whereas MC really doesn't have any fellow bungie characters he'd be overshadowing by coming on over.

Who knows, maybe they'll do some crazy crap where if you beat the Halo DS on legendary mode or something you get data that unlocks MC on SSBB. They did this with Melee, except it was trophies instead of characters. Who knowz?!?

Oh and fun fact - I just found out yesterday that Melee was so rushed that, from start to finish, they worked on it a grand total of 10 months. 10 months of production for a game that's outlasted every other game on its console and most of the games on others and netted them more money than any other game on the gamecube.

Dayummmmmn.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timothy Dallas wrote:
chzrm3 wrote:
While MC would be cool, he'd be really out of place because he's never been on a Nintendo console or handheld or anything.


Actually, there's rumours of a Halo DS in existence or in development, so if that's true he will be soon, so there's a slight possibility he might be around should the rumour ring true and a fourth Smash Bros is released. I'll get the magazine article for you as soon as my laptop's close enough to my scanner.

As far as I know that was a hoax. And and old hoax even. Maybe this is more recent? I dunno...

The MC addition has been debated endlessly amongst people. It's a bad idea. How would they even throw him into a Nintendo game? Yeah, ok, Snake, sure, but Halo being (arguably) the Xbox's "most popular game" and them adding MC into a game on another system by another company... yeah, just not gonna happen.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can gain this is fairly recent. Bit of 'net research says it was pretty old but some guy's brought it up within the past couple of months trying to convince people it does exist. Also, I can't recall when NGamer's lied to me before. Anyway, I was only saying that while it's extremely unlikely for MC to be in some Smash Bros I don't think it's impossible. Should Halo DS exist.

chzrm3 wrote:
...there's tons of other square characters who are more nintendo than they are...

I suddenly want to see Frog in Smash Bros. Or the boy from Secret of Evermore, 'cause clubbing Mario with a bone would be great.

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and it isn't that difficult to say "HMM, ADD DIDDY?"

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadow Blade wrote:
If Snake from a Sony game is in SSBB, {blah rant etc}


People seem to repeatedly forget that the original Metal Gear was a NES title. It's not like it's a huge stretch of the rules to put Snake in when the developers begged for his inclusion. However, this still makes me want Simon Belmont to show up.

EDIT: This was already pointed out. Bah. Still, but some vampire-whipping Belmont action into the fray, guys! Please!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIDDY KONG HAS BEEN ANOUNNCED.

I'm hoping the smash moves aren't like the ones from Mario Power Tennis.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: = DDDDDDD Reply with quote

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



IS DAT SUM KARTWH33l?!!?!?

Woah awesome yay I'm so happy right now I could eat a crap. And it seems like he has a lot of moves from DK 64, sweeeet!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diddy is probably going to be a dream-come-true for Cheese Monkey Razz.

And, Ok, maby MC just shouldn't be in Brawl. It was a good dream though.

I guess we can still hope for Sonic to be in there. I would get kinda mad if he wasn't. Although there's a fairly good chance that he won't. Oh, well.

Edit---

I just noticed that it says "Nintendo" on Diddy's cap. T'wasn't expecting that. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the immortal words of that guy from the Starcraft II trailer:

"Hell, it's about time." Cool

(Actually, it was more like "Hayull, eet's about tahm," but eh, close enough.)


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Thank you for paying attention to DK64 <3




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just noticed that it says "Nintendo" on Diddy's cap. T'wasn't expecting that. Razz


Like it did in DKC2, and Diddy Kong Racing? Even some of the original DKC artwork had that, I believe. You're not having a good day for your random game trivia are you? Razz
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I just noticed that it says "Nintendo" on Diddy's cap. T'wasn't expecting that. Razz


Like it did in DKC2, and Diddy Kong Racing? Even some of the original DKC artwork had that, I believe. You're not having a good day for your random game trivia are you? Razz




As for Lanky, heh. He'd certainly be a unique character, but compared to K. Rool or even Dixie it'd be a major wtf to see his cross-eyed self pop up in the game.

Hey, sort of on this note, wouldn't it be cool if the orange from DK64 was an item? You'd throw it and it'd bounce and roll and then explode, but if it touches someone it instantly explodes. DK really didn't have any moves from DK64, nor any items, but Diddy apparently will, so maybe we'll see some items from there now?

Also, I wonder if Diddy'll get his own stage? I wonder what it'd be. Maybe something from DKR?
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