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This game will...
r0x0r my b0x0rz.
45%
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likely r0x0r somebody's b0x0rz, but not my own.
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
flop like a bag of stinky s0x0rz.
15%
 15%  [ 5 ]
magically come to life and start duking it out with such Wii celebrities as Twilight Princess and Mr. Virtual Console.
33%
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything since last Thursday? AWESOME! (I've been gone for the weekend without Internet).

I can't wait to play as Sonic with Tails co-oping with me. XD

Hey, I had a dream that Banjo was confirmed for Brawl. I nearly killed myself when I found out it was only a dream...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So! Zamus has a whip and a short-range gun. Also her whip can be used to grab edges! This sure is entirely new information we either don't already know or couldn't deduce on our own.

Yep. Sure is.

On the other hand, while I remain adamant that there will be no method of plaing as ZSS from the start a la Shiek, their increasing persistence to treat her as an entirely seperate character is wearing my resolve.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhadow Slade wrote:
I can't wait to play as Sonic with Tails co-oping with me.

Meh. We've been told that apart from Snake, there will only be "one or two" more third-party characters. While I mean no offense to the Tails fans out there, doesn't it seem like a bit of a waste to use both of the remaining third-party slots on characters from the same series? Confused As nice as a Sonic/Tails tag-team would be, I'd personally much rather see three completely separate franchises represented -- and there are plenty of other kickarse franchises out there just begging for inclusion (Mega Man, Bomberman, and [as you mentioned] B-K, to name a scant few).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know. But as I have said before, it is a good dream.

In that case then, let me re-phrase that:

I can't wait to play as Sonic with BK co-oping with me.


Oh shoot and darnits! I just remembered that I won't be able to play it anyway since I am banned from Video Games! OH-NOES! ...crud...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: o_O Reply with quote

Shadow Blade wrote:
Oh shoot and darnits! I just remembered that I won't be able to play it anyway since I am banned from Video Games! OH-NOES! ...crud...


O_o

As far as Sonic goes, don't you think it'd just be weird if he wasn't and Brawl? Sonic and Mario at the Olympics is a really cheesy, random theme that seems like it was pulled out of the first ass that laid a dump when they needed a cheap gimmick to combine the mario and the sonic characters. Making an entire game revolving around the theme of mario + sonic, and then not putting Sonic into Brawl.. can you imagine?

That said, from what I heard the ball was in SEGA's court. Apparently they had till august of this year to respond saying whether or not they wanted Sonic in. This was something Nonz was telling me though, so I dunno if it's reliable or not. O_o

Anyway, ZSS's moves seem kinda weird. When I saw that she had a move that could stun, I thought to myself "oh, another one of those?" I dunno, Jigglypuff has sleep, Mewtwo has that little psychic thing, D.K. has the headbutt, Yoshi has the egg... and it just seems like these moves can be so easily countered by quickly tapping the buttons that there's not much advantage to busting 'em out. And then there's the fact that down-B = the same thing? Except down? That's pretty weird. He says you can charge it to do combo's, so that's cool, but it sounds like it's either gonna be really OP or really weak.

Also with the whips, side B and up and B are the same. I wonder if Ivysaur's up and B is also gonna be some vertical whip thing?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No updates yet? I guess it falls upon me to deliver the goods again.

KIRBY FINAL SMASH

...yeah, cooking Kirby, we all saw it in the first trailer. A-hem.

WARIOWARE TWISTED: ASHLEY'S THEME

Now this is interesting. It seems they've hired some talented vocalist work to do the song for its Brawl update. It's worth a listen!
I kind of prefer Ashley's tomboyish "Mandy from Grim and Evil" voice in the original, but at least this one can sing nice. The song is posted with a link to hear the Japanese version as well, but states that the final game will have 6+1 language variations on the song.
The +1 apparently counts for slight variations in british lingo and accent from the USA version. Odd.

Anyway, when you're moseying over to hear the Japanese version, be sure not to miss;

HIDDEN UPDATE: COOKING MAMA THEME

This is posted under Kirby's final smash, but only on the Japanese segment. Cute and fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: *shakes fist in KBK's general direction*

So, yeah, we've briefly seen Kirby's FS before, but now we get all the details. Eh, fair enough. It seems as if it's completely unavoidable -- the pot sucks you in no matter where you are on the stage. (I call "hax"!) Then it spits out some random items and sends everybody flying. Pretty straightforward, and all four players just get to -- have to? -- sit back and watch. Ho hum. Personally, I find the interactive FSes (Fox's, Yoshi's, Diddy's, etc) far more interesting. Lick Lune

ALSO! If you look at the update over on the Japanese side, it has music, too! Ooh Lune I believe the voice at the beginning says "Dairantō (part of the Japanese name for SSB) Cooking Show", so it's hard to tell if it will be the theme for a Kirby stage or just play during his FS. I'd lean toward the FS, simply because it makes more sense in my mind -- but then again, it's a rather long piece for that usage alone. Additionally, I will concede that duking it out on the set of a Kirby-themed cooking show would be simply hilarious. Razz

As for Ashley's Theme... I like it. ROFL Lune I've heard the original before, and I actually like this new version better (granted, the original used DS synths). The English singers didn't do a half-bad job IMO! Lick Lune Anyway, lyrical songs in Smash are certainly strange, but not unheard of (see also: DK Rap). And I suppose its strangeness makes it all the more befitting of the inherently upside-down Smash universe. Razz

For those who are curious, the lyrics wrote:
Who's the girl next door living in the haunted mansion
You'd better learn my name 'cause it's Ashley
She knows the darkest spells and she brews the meanest potions
You might be the ingredient I seek
Don't let yourself be fooled by her innocent demeanor
You'd better be afraid of the great Ashley
She doesn't play with dolls and she never combs her hair
Who has time for girly things like that
Eye of a newt, I cast a hex on you
Grandma's wig, This will make you big
Kitten...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me, or were the items produced in the final smash kirby-only items? I wonder if that's just for the promo pic or that's how it will work in-game.

EDIT - Did I beat you to it Fruity-kun? I pointed out the music too, it is indeed the Cooking Mama theme.

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Quote:
Who's the girl next door living in the haunted mansion
You'd better learn my name 'cause it's Ashley
She knows the darkest spells and she brews the meanest potions
You might be the ingredient I seek
Don't let yourself be fooled by her innocent demeanor
You'd better be afraid of the great Ashley
She doesn't play with dolls and she never combs her hair
Who has time for girly things like that
Eye of a newt, I cast a hex on you
Grandma's wig, This will make you big
Kitten...

...spit, soon your pants won't fit!
PANTALONES GIGANTICUS!
(Oh no, not again!)

She can rule the world and still finish all her homework!
Everyone knows that I'm the greatest, Ashley!
You'd better watch your step or she'll cast a spell on you!
I turned my teacher into a spoon.

I refer to my spell book, and yes it's true,
I don't have as many friends as you.
But, I think you're nice, and maybe we could be friends~
And if you say no, you're TOAST.

-yeah just had to finish that off. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did I beat you to it Fruity-kun?

So you did, Koopa-san, so you did.

On a completely unrelated note:

Yesterday, chzrm3 wrote:
down-B = the same thing? Except down?

No. "A down smash will fire it at your feet!" Down smashes aren't the same thing as down specials. Razz And I'm pretty sure the "it" in that sentence was simply referring to Zamus' normal gun, not the stun-thingy (technical term).

EDIT: Well! I just pre-ordered teh game, gratz @ me. I wound up buying it from LionGames, since their price is by far the cheapest around. Oh yes, believe me, the "street date guarantee" on EBgames was extremely tempting, especially since LG's quickest shipping is "2-3 days". *groan* But, in the end, I decided that having to wait a few extra days of anticipation is worth saving nearly $20 (paid $44 instead of EB's $63). Lick Lune
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. As far as the "Cooking MAMA" theme, why didn't they have a translated version on the English page? If they don't even intend on translating it in the game itself, I would feel really weird sitting there and playing a game while listening to Japanese vocals, I dunno, it's just not my thing.


As far as the "only 2 or 3 3rd party characters", I wonder who they'll be. Snake we know, so the other two would probably be Sonic (hopefully), and either MegaMan or BK. I'm kind of hoping for MegaMan, but BK is very likely as well, although I'm not sure if it has enough fans to make it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shizzle Blizzle wrote:
As far as the "Cooking MAMA" theme, why didn't they have a translated version on the English page? If they don't even intend on translating it in the game itself, I would feel really weird sitting there and playing a game while listening to Japanese vocals, I dunno, it's just not my thing.

It will most likely be translated. If the intention were for the piece to remain in Japanese, there would be no reason for its omission in the English update. Razz

With that said, though, leaving Japanese vocals in an English Smash game isn't wholly a new concept, either. Case in point: Marth's/Roy's cries, taunts, and victory sayings. Lick Lune It sounds out of place, yes, but "out of place" is Super Smash Bros' middle name. (Work that one out.)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Cooking Mama. My sister wants that game.

MAMA CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL Y/N


SARCASTICALLY ASKING IF RANDOM CHARACTER IS CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL IN ALL CAPS GETTING OLD Y/N

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh. This week's updates have been fail so far. It's not like we didn't know all of this stuff already. >_<
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find 14:24.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


'Nuff said.
Looks like the fanboys got their wish.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really care too much for Sonic being in it. His character annoys me deeply. ;[
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, when hundreds of millions of whining fanatics congregate and scream themselves blue-faced (no pun intended), not even Smash Bros is impervious to the verbal assault. If they didn't include him in Brawl, people would likely have buried Nintendo HQ in Osaka with hatemail.
I shudder to think of the undoubtedly MILLIONS of sonic-themed drawings being uploaded to deviantart every second because of this announcement alone.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheese Monkey wrote:
Meh. This week's updates have been fail so far.


Today's two new videos and slew of Sonic screenshots should change your mind, though.

Fantastic update, anyway. I was never very excited about Sonic's inevitable inclusion, but they've done such a good job with him that I'm really looking forward to playing as him. He's just so ridiculously fast - should be brilliant fun to play as. The old-school sound effects are a lovely touch, too.

Aside from Sonic, there's a lot of other new information in those videos too, for instance possible new stages. There's one bit in the first trailer where it showcases the different Pokémon Trainer 'mons - when it cuts to Charizard you can see he's standing on a futuristic, neon platform above some lava-filled cavern which is covered in that scaly growth you see in Metroid's subterranean levels. So, maybe this is a new Brinstar, or a Magmoor Caverns type level? Also, you can see the aurora borealis behind the Ice Climbers when they're shown hopping around - you'll be happy at their new stage, then, Chizurms!

There also seem to be a multiple taunts for each character, which is nice. Link's got a new one which features Navi - in blatant, punishment-worthy disregard of Twilight Princess canon, the wankers, etc (not really though, it's a very nice addition Razz). Pit seems to have one where he levitates around, and Sonic's probably got that finger-waggle seen at the end of his video. There's also an interesting bit where it shows Lucas doing what looks like an Up-Special attack - however it doesn't really look like Ness' PK Thunder. So, if his moveset is as different from Ness' as it seems, maybe there's still some hope Ness will be in there too.

Obligatory caps/confirmation-request time, then.


"IM IN UR PELVIC REGION, SLICIN UR CROTCH"


MORRIS DANCING CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL, Y/N?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: = DDDDD Reply with quote

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Also, you can see the aurora borealis behind the Ice Climbers when they're shown hopping around - you'll be happy at their new stage, then, Chizurms!


Hey, nice catch! I didn't even notice that in their stage.. considering DK's got the "going up" level, I wonder what there's will be like this time? I always felt a little bad that the ice climbers only had one stage and it was so gimmicky - I always felt like a static, stable ice level, with slippery platforms and all that, could've been really fun. I guess we'll see what it's like, it looks really solid!

As far as sonic, HOLY #*@U. Seriously. When I saw this update I just screamed WHAT THE $#@%. I saw "Warning: Challenger Approaching" and was like "oh wow, who can it be?" I figured someone from the star fox games or something, but $#@% oh my crap, this is insane. I'm so happy, this is easily my favorite character update and my favorite update ever from this site, eiqhwhriwhrqiwqhr Jeez, holy $#@%!!!! Wow I can't calm down.

First things first, his moves... they look fantastic! I was wondering what they'd do with Sonic cause there's a lot of down-B specials where your character falls down fast, and there's a lot of side-B specials where your character does a charge... as such, I felt there wasn't too much room to make Sonic unique. But, just from looking at his moves, you can see where it is - the speed. = D Seriously, his crap is so fast he's probably gonna be OP beyond hell but who $#@%ing cares because IT'S SONIC MOGMOGMGOM. Seriously though, it looks like he can combo out of every move he's got, which is gonna be sick. First we see him doing his roll charge on Mario then immediately jumping out and kicking him, then we see him doing a homing attack thing on D.K., then getting out and also kicking him.

Also, at the end it shows him going Super Sonic, which is probably his final smash... awesome awesome awesome aweseme awesome!!!! = D

As for the gameplay vid, wow. It's great to see the game in its final stages of production, it's so exciting! = D All the final smashes look amazing, too. The landmaster, Yoshi's Super Mario World form, they all just look so well done and HOLY CARP I can't wait. They're also showing more and more of adventure mode and I just can't believe it's $#@% co-op hooooly crap wow.

The Sonic update has infected me with hardcore, relentless fanboyism. I should probably lay off posting till it subsides a bit. Still. Right now it's Oct. 10th. We've got like a month and 23 days? sWEEEEET
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMFG.

That is all (for now).
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We've got like a month and 23 days? sWEEEEET


Sorry, guess you didn't get the memo. The game's release was delayed until the end of January.
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chzrm3 wrote:
We've got like a month and 23 days? sWEEEEET


Sorry, guess you didn't get the memo. The game's release was delayed until the end of January.


Oh wow, so it's been delayed almost two months? Hot crap, that must mean they're still developing stuff. Hopefully this means more characters, woot!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: = DDDDD Reply with quote

King Bowser Koopa wrote:
chzrm3 wrote:
We've got like a month and 23 days? sWEEEEET


Sorry, guess you didn't get the memo. The game's release was delayed until the end of January.
Well that makes me feel better... At least then I wouldn't be able to get it for my B-day even if...I could.

But as far as Sonic goes, I'm with Chzrm3 (the "HOLY CRAP HOLY CRAP HOLY CRAP" thing). Before I saw the update I was thinking "oh wow wouldn't it be funny if it was a new character" and then (while the page was loading) I saw that gap where the "NU DUDE IZ COMIN" would go and was like "What? Really?" and then I looked down and saw SONICSONICSONICSONICSONIC!!!!! My brothers kept saying "Are you sure this isn't a joke?" And I was like, "No, look, it's the DOJO". Seriously guys, I don't see why you're not happy about this.

I just hope that his move-set is like the one that I had picked out for him (in my Smash Bros game that I'm working on "Super Smash Bros. Massacre"; I'll get a demo of it here sometime). Like, Up+B = Aim-able Homing Attack (heh, that's really the only one so far ha ha).

EDIT--

Also, here's some things I noticed.

If you look in the vid, you will see Sonic springing off of a Spring-Pad--in Delfino Plaza. I doubt that this will be a part of the Stage itself, so could it be an item? That would be cool, it would be like you pick it up and when you throw it it sticks to a wall for a while. Of course, this could just be Sonic's Up-B (which I refuse to believe at the moment).

Also, the "Live-n-Learn" theme from Sonic Adventure 2 is a big plus. I thought that $ega just forgot about that game (considering the Moon was blown in half in that game and is back together in all of the later ones).

Also, is that downward-air-kick his Down-B? I expected something moar, like his bounce from SA2 or something, but I guess it's not that bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....

I didn't think it was possible to report this much win (Sonic) and this much fail (release date) at the same time. But, I suppose, that was the plan - pacify everybody with Sonic's inclusion. -_-

@Anybody anti-Sonic: eh. If you start complaining about fanboys you're no better than 'em. I wanted to see Sonic in it to, and I'm far from a Sonic fanboy. Would I have voted him in? After Banjo and possibly Geno, yes (I would've had him tied with Diddy Kong, but he's already in the game).

All in all, this is the kind of game with which you have to remember: it could always be better, and it could always be worse. They could've removed half the good characters from Melee and left in all the clones, forced you to play with the Wiimote and replaced the whole soundtrack with garbage that would make Mario Party 5 sound good. But no, this game is going to rock. No matter how late they release it... -_-

EDIT: Hmm, could it be possible that the release is applied to Japan only? I've heard arguments for and against in other places. The most compelling was that the Wii itself was released in the US before Japan..... HMMMMM.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: DDDDD = Reply with quote

KBK wrote:
The game's release was delayed until the end of January.

Actually, Jan 24 is the newly-announced Japanese release date. The American release date is now simply "TBD". *weeps* Crying or Very Sad

CM wrote:
EDIT: Hmm, could it be possible that the release is applied to Japan only?

I wish, but it's been changed on the sidebar of the Dojo itself... take a gander. Smirk Lune
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